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		Comment on From Breaking Down to Breaking Through (in just 8 minutes) by Larry Rubin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry Rubin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2022 01:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Self love, understanding not narcissism. Love self from critical understanding and self honesty of oneself in relation to environment.  Narcissism demands others to love a percieved self based on little self insight and little pain of self honesty.  One takes pain of living to develop self, character.  Other takes less pain path to use power to control others to &#039;love&#039; an imaginary self based on little insight. Almost everyone takes easier control of others path. Look around you. My view at least  works for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Self love, understanding not narcissism. Love self from critical understanding and self honesty of oneself in relation to environment.  Narcissism demands others to love a percieved self based on little self insight and little pain of self honesty.  One takes pain of living to develop self, character.  Other takes less pain path to use power to control others to &#8216;love&#8217; an imaginary self based on little insight. Almost everyone takes easier control of others path. Look around you. My view at least  works for me.</p>
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		Comment on Communities Know What’s Good for Them When It Comes to Transport by The Journey of the Underpass &#8211; Sustainable BOP		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Journey of the Underpass &#8211; Sustainable BOP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2022 01:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] 2019 I wrote about the community reaction to it being removed, and we were pissed off. There were countless meetings with Waka Kotahi NZTA [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 2019 I wrote about the community reaction to it being removed, and we were pissed off. There were countless meetings with Waka Kotahi NZTA [&#8230;]</p>
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		Comment on It&#8217;s Love, Not Fear, That Will Get Us Through the Covid Crisis by Peta Joyce		</title>
		<link>https://cncl.info/human-society/200-times-transmission-rates-from-the-unvaxxed-okay-its-really-time-to-end-the-fear-campaign/#comment-2846</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peta Joyce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2022 02:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paris, my gratitude to you for a) doing the research and b) articulating the whole issue so well. I&#039;m with you all the way, especially about coming from love or fear (a lesson I learned for myself coming through cancer!). Your views in the second half of the article moved and comforted me greatly. Thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paris, my gratitude to you for a) doing the research and b) articulating the whole issue so well. I&#8217;m with you all the way, especially about coming from love or fear (a lesson I learned for myself coming through cancer!). Your views in the second half of the article moved and comforted me greatly. Thank you!</p>
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		Comment on The COVID Fear Response and Wider Psychology With Dr Paris Williams: The Plant a Seed Podcast EP 16 by William Otte Lucas		</title>
		<link>https://cncl.info/human-society/the-covid-fear-response-and-wider-psychology-with-dr-paris-williams-the-plant-a-seed-podcast-ep-16/#comment-2741</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Otte Lucas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2021 18:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Welcome to Dunedin, Paris!]]></description>
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		Comment on It&#8217;s Love, Not Fear, That Will Get Us Through the Covid Crisis by James Kemp		</title>
		<link>https://cncl.info/human-society/200-times-transmission-rates-from-the-unvaxxed-okay-its-really-time-to-end-the-fear-campaign/#comment-2737</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Kemp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2021 01:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for doing the research I couldn&#039;t if only to show the lies we know are covering the usual fear-mongering, distractions, massive fraud and removal of human rights we should expect of politicians fronting big pharma, especially if they tell us to sign-over access to our medical records and that they will need to track how many interventions we&#039;ve had, innocent as this might seem to those who aren&#039;t interested in where the pandemic came from in the first place.

I posted it before reading because I knew you&#039;d be on point, and of course it was even more professional, well informed and well qualified, compassionate, balanced, generous and eminently human than I&#039;d imagined - especially in comparison with my usual fb rants.

I&#039;m reassured and concerned that like me you see this as a clear warning that things are moving in a very serious direction and at pace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for doing the research I couldn&#8217;t if only to show the lies we know are covering the usual fear-mongering, distractions, massive fraud and removal of human rights we should expect of politicians fronting big pharma, especially if they tell us to sign-over access to our medical records and that they will need to track how many interventions we&#8217;ve had, innocent as this might seem to those who aren&#8217;t interested in where the pandemic came from in the first place.</p>
<p>I posted it before reading because I knew you&#8217;d be on point, and of course it was even more professional, well informed and well qualified, compassionate, balanced, generous and eminently human than I&#8217;d imagined &#8211; especially in comparison with my usual fb rants.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reassured and concerned that like me you see this as a clear warning that things are moving in a very serious direction and at pace.</p>
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		Comment on The Covid Vaccine Mandates: A Trauma-Informed Perspective by Nan VanSandt		</title>
		<link>https://cncl.info/human-society/the-new-zealand-covid-crisis-a-trauma-informed-perspective/#comment-2730</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nan VanSandt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2021 02:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cncl.info/human-society/the-new-zealand-covid-crisis-a-trauma-informed-perspective/#comment-2687&quot;&gt;Melissa Rowthorn&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for this article!  It was cathartic and healing for me.  I am thankful that I am not alone and that someone out there understands my situation and has so eloquently been able to put it into words.  I have been an RN for 43 years. I worked here in the US through the covid times.  Not fearful, yet fully aware that I could get covid and it could possibly be serious/deadly. As an RN, I am no stranger to suffering and death. After careful consideration of risks/benefits, I made the choice not to vaccinate.   
When I heard the news from my employer that I would lose my job if I did not get vaccinated, I had an IMMEDIATE flashback to a physical and psychological abuse situation that I experienced as a young woman of 23.  Few are able to understand my reaction. &quot;It&#039;s only a vaccine!&quot;   But then and there, I knew that the die was cast, and, if I am to be true to my self,  and to that young woman I was, I cannot accept the mandated vaccine.  Up until then, the door was always open that I may change my mind.  No more.
As you said, it has become for me &quot;a fight to save the human rights and soul of my community and country.&quot;  (and my world)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cncl.info/human-society/the-new-zealand-covid-crisis-a-trauma-informed-perspective/#comment-2687">Melissa Rowthorn</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for this article!  It was cathartic and healing for me.  I am thankful that I am not alone and that someone out there understands my situation and has so eloquently been able to put it into words.  I have been an RN for 43 years. I worked here in the US through the covid times.  Not fearful, yet fully aware that I could get covid and it could possibly be serious/deadly. As an RN, I am no stranger to suffering and death. After careful consideration of risks/benefits, I made the choice not to vaccinate.<br />
When I heard the news from my employer that I would lose my job if I did not get vaccinated, I had an IMMEDIATE flashback to a physical and psychological abuse situation that I experienced as a young woman of 23.  Few are able to understand my reaction. &#8220;It&#8217;s only a vaccine!&#8221;   But then and there, I knew that the die was cast, and, if I am to be true to my self,  and to that young woman I was, I cannot accept the mandated vaccine.  Up until then, the door was always open that I may change my mind.  No more.<br />
As you said, it has become for me &#8220;a fight to save the human rights and soul of my community and country.&#8221;  (and my world)</p>
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		Comment on It&#8217;s Love, Not Fear, That Will Get Us Through the Covid Crisis by Melissa Mae		</title>
		<link>https://cncl.info/human-society/200-times-transmission-rates-from-the-unvaxxed-okay-its-really-time-to-end-the-fear-campaign/#comment-2728</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Melissa Mae]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2021 07:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fantastic article, thank you. Reading this made me feel so much better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic article, thank you. Reading this made me feel so much better.</p>
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		Comment on Support Our Future and Yours! by Marnie Reid		</title>
		<link>https://cncl.info/?p=214833/#comment-2720</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marnie Reid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2021 01:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read one of Dr Paris Williams blogs and thought it was spot on]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read one of Dr Paris Williams blogs and thought it was spot on</p>
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		Comment on The Covid Vaccine Mandates: A Trauma-Informed Perspective by Paris Williams		</title>
		<link>https://cncl.info/human-society/the-new-zealand-covid-crisis-a-trauma-informed-perspective/#comment-2717</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paris Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2021 19:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cncl.info/human-society/the-new-zealand-covid-crisis-a-trauma-informed-perspective/#comment-2716&quot;&gt;Deborah&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Deborah, 

Thank you for sharing these thoughts -  I believe that they&#039;re certainly worthy of serious consideration, chilling as they may be.

I actually wrote an article that I think speaks very much to what you wrote here. I wrote it prior to the covid crisis, so I don&#039;t explicitly mention this crisis, but I reflected upon the situation of extraordinary social inequality and the destruction of democracy and our Earth more generally. You may find it interesting:  https://cncl.info/human-society/reclaim-our-power-or-face-extinction-the-choice-is-ours/

We also developed this organisation - CNCL - with the explicit intention to support &quot;the common people&quot; in taking power back from the ruling elites, who have clearly abused their power in some truly horrific ways. And regardless of what one&#039;s personal beliefs are regarding the covid situation, I think we can all agree that certain powerful interests are, at the very least, taking full advantage of the situation in ways that further enrich and emnpower themselves, while further increasing social inequality. You might enjoy reading more about our principles and mission statement here: https://cncl.info/about-us/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cncl.info/human-society/the-new-zealand-covid-crisis-a-trauma-informed-perspective/#comment-2716">Deborah</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Deborah, </p>
<p>Thank you for sharing these thoughts &#8211;  I believe that they&#8217;re certainly worthy of serious consideration, chilling as they may be.</p>
<p>I actually wrote an article that I think speaks very much to what you wrote here. I wrote it prior to the covid crisis, so I don&#8217;t explicitly mention this crisis, but I reflected upon the situation of extraordinary social inequality and the destruction of democracy and our Earth more generally. You may find it interesting:  <a href="https://cncl.info/human-society/reclaim-our-power-or-face-extinction-the-choice-is-ours/" rel="ugc">https://cncl.info/human-society/reclaim-our-power-or-face-extinction-the-choice-is-ours/</a></p>
<p>We also developed this organisation &#8211; CNCL &#8211; with the explicit intention to support &#8220;the common people&#8221; in taking power back from the ruling elites, who have clearly abused their power in some truly horrific ways. And regardless of what one&#8217;s personal beliefs are regarding the covid situation, I think we can all agree that certain powerful interests are, at the very least, taking full advantage of the situation in ways that further enrich and emnpower themselves, while further increasing social inequality. You might enjoy reading more about our principles and mission statement here: <a href="https://cncl.info/about-us/" rel="ugc">https://cncl.info/about-us/</a></p>
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		Comment on The Covid Vaccine Mandates: A Trauma-Informed Perspective by Deborah		</title>
		<link>https://cncl.info/human-society/the-new-zealand-covid-crisis-a-trauma-informed-perspective/#comment-2716</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2021 11:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent analysis thank you.
I would like to add a couple of things I think you missed though.
The vaccinated now find themselves in a difficult situation if they actually do come to the realization they&#039;ve been lied too,and they start discovering the vaccine is neither safe,nor effective.
Imagine the terror they must be feeling? They can not remove the substance from their bodies,and they are powerless to have any recompense via the government or Pfizer.
To protect their own sanity there will be many who will then bury the new information,and will once again deny the truth of what they have discovered.
They perhaps may outwardly turn their emotions onto the anti vaxxer&#039;s with renewed vigor.
Others unable to live with the fear and knowledge may take their own lives,and there may be some who are so enraged by the betrayal they may commit acts of violence against the perpetrators.
Then there is the government themselves.
You put forth potential solutions they could deploy,but don&#039;t seem to have considered that the government may not be acting under their own volition.
For arguments sake imagine the government are being controlled by others much more powerful.They may even be blackmailed to carry out certain objectives.Humans naturally have a tendency for self preservation.
If such a precarious situation did in fact exist,it would be extremely difficult for those in power to extract themselves,or change their course of action.
If such a situation existed it wouldn&#039;t bode well for our society,nor do I know how they could extract themselves safely while changing course to give us the freedom back we all so desire.
Perhaps you could write a couple more articles on the above mentioned please? With possible solutions,or outcomes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent analysis thank you.<br />
I would like to add a couple of things I think you missed though.<br />
The vaccinated now find themselves in a difficult situation if they actually do come to the realization they&#8217;ve been lied too,and they start discovering the vaccine is neither safe,nor effective.<br />
Imagine the terror they must be feeling? They can not remove the substance from their bodies,and they are powerless to have any recompense via the government or Pfizer.<br />
To protect their own sanity there will be many who will then bury the new information,and will once again deny the truth of what they have discovered.<br />
They perhaps may outwardly turn their emotions onto the anti vaxxer&#8217;s with renewed vigor.<br />
Others unable to live with the fear and knowledge may take their own lives,and there may be some who are so enraged by the betrayal they may commit acts of violence against the perpetrators.<br />
Then there is the government themselves.<br />
You put forth potential solutions they could deploy,but don&#8217;t seem to have considered that the government may not be acting under their own volition.<br />
For arguments sake imagine the government are being controlled by others much more powerful.They may even be blackmailed to carry out certain objectives.Humans naturally have a tendency for self preservation.<br />
If such a precarious situation did in fact exist,it would be extremely difficult for those in power to extract themselves,or change their course of action.<br />
If such a situation existed it wouldn&#8217;t bode well for our society,nor do I know how they could extract themselves safely while changing course to give us the freedom back we all so desire.<br />
Perhaps you could write a couple more articles on the above mentioned please? With possible solutions,or outcomes.</p>
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		Comment on The Covid Vaccine Mandates: A Trauma-Informed Perspective by melissa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[melissa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2021 00:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Feeling sad when reading this comment: &quot;“We hear that Māori are behind other groups, and this is true. But ... Māori have more reason to distrust the people telling them to get jabbed than other groups because they can point to historical discrimination that has really happened.”

As if any non-Maori people&#039;s personal history with trauma and damaging power-control dynamics haven&#039;t really happened?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/126955947/were-marching-were-yelling-but-where-the-hell-is-new-zealand-headed]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feeling sad when reading this comment: &#8220;“We hear that Māori are behind other groups, and this is true. But &#8230; Māori have more reason to distrust the people telling them to get jabbed than other groups because they can point to historical discrimination that has really happened.”</p>
<p>As if any non-Maori people&#8217;s personal history with trauma and damaging power-control dynamics haven&#8217;t really happened?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/126955947/were-marching-were-yelling-but-where-the-hell-is-new-zealand-headed" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/126955947/were-marching-were-yelling-but-where-the-hell-is-new-zealand-headed</a></p>
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		Comment on The Covid Vaccine Mandates: A Trauma-Informed Perspective by Brian lonsdale		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian lonsdale]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2021 00:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cncl.info/human-society/the-new-zealand-covid-crisis-a-trauma-informed-perspective/#comment-2710&quot;&gt;John ONeill&lt;/a&gt;.

John Oneill:   and your point was??  Brian]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cncl.info/human-society/the-new-zealand-covid-crisis-a-trauma-informed-perspective/#comment-2710">John ONeill</a>.</p>
<p>John Oneill:   and your point was??  Brian</p>
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